The new music, sound-wise wise is a lot faster than what you were making before.

Venus: Well, I would say that if the EP were longer, it would be more similar. A lot of the music we were making at that time was fast and fun live. That was a big thing in Adelaide; there aren’t many music snobs there, so the main thing was to have really high energy and a fun set. We had a whole lot of songs that, when we were recording them, we were like this doesn’t meet our standards for what we like, so we leaned more towards the chill ones because we could play around with them sonically. This one, we’re trying to get the combination.

Maxwell: We’re trying to have a party with it, party music is so fun and trying to figure it out with the guitar is the best.

Josh: I think our music influences have changed, too. We love the EP, but a lot of that was us getting it out so we could move forward in the direction we wanted to play.

Yeah, and it’s not like the EP is bad by any means; it does exactly what it wants to do so well. “I Wish I” is such an amazing, powerful song, but at the same time, it’s really cool seeing the music head in the direction that feels like the music that is really like you. Was that a natural progression?

Venus: Aw, thank you. 

Josh: Yeah, totally. Also, we’ve been a band for five years and “Ceiling Fan” was played at our first gig.

Whoa, yeah, so much has changed in that time. Now, you guys have spent more time out of Adelaide, like Venus, you moved to Melbourne, Jack and Maxwell, you spent time in the States, and you’ve all toured around Australia. Do you feel like that added influence from external sources outside of Adelaide has shaped the sound?

Venus: For sure, we’re figuring out our placement of the band, and now, instead of being in this little Adelaide bubble, we’re contextualising our music in a grander scheme, not just with the bands that are playing at the one pub we go to. This is a recontextualization of our band and our music at this time, and I think it gets us closer to what we want to be doing.

Josh: Adelaide bands are great, but obviously, as there aren’t as many people, there aren’t scenes as there are in Melbourne. Branching out, meeting Garage Sale, and all these bands in our scene have been really transformative.

Venus: But also, it felt really cool to be accepted by these bands even though we are a bit quirkier and our music is more nerdy and not super edgy. It’s been cool to relearn how to be ourselves and have these great friends we feel like we can have a lot of fun on stage with.

Does it ever feel weird playing so many different instruments, where you can’t get as good as you want to be at certain instruments?

Maxwell: I don’t think about drums too much.

Jack: This band made us both get randomly good at drums.

Maxwell: Well, I never played drums before this. I mucked around a bit with friends, but not properly. I started with guitar when I was little, it will always be my instrument, but now I don’t even think of guitar in the same way I used to, it’s there to do stuff with than to be a guitarist.

Josh: It seems like you both love both drums and guitar.

Maxwell: I love it so much; it makes it so much more enjoyable because if you get bored with one thing, you can jump to another.

Where did the Ableton influence come from?

Jack: I got Ableton on my school laptop, and I made a beat with it. It was kinda dope, the first beat I made [laughs]. I chopped up myself playing guitar and then added every Ableton effect to it. 

Josh: Maxwell’s on the other side.

Maxwell: I’m a Logic legend.

Josh: Venus and I are Garage Band legends.

Venus: I’m a voice memo legend.